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The @Nero Solution (and an Unfortunate Update on the #FreeKate Fallout)

Posted on | July 6, 2016 | 30 Comments

 

Milo Yiannopoulos has solved the “harassment” problem:

The fact is, women are more easily rattled by nastiness than men. That’s a stereotype, but it’s also true — in the landmark Pew study on online harassment, women were more than twice as likely as men to say they were “very upset” by online harassment. That’s why, despite the fact that men are more likely to face abuse online, it’s mostly women you hear complaining about it in the pages of The Guardian and on Buzzfeed.
Men have had enough of third-wave feminism’s incessant and pathetic whinging about everything from gender pronouns to this bizarre “online harassment” craze — or “cyber-violence,” as they sometimes bizarrely call it. Women are upset at men being rude to them, and feel “oppressed,” we are told, whenever they are treated on equal terms as men in the maelstrom of trolling that is social media.
Consider the GamerGate controversy, where gamers fought back against the nannying, hectoring feelings police and were branded “harassers” and “misogynists.” It’s also happened in comics: if you go to an online comics forum and talk about anything but how stunning and brave the new SJW storylines are, you’ll get the boot.
The internet can’t cope any more with such strenuous tension between the sexes. I mean, there’s a reason that male golfers don’t compete against female golfers. They’re in a league of their own, and it would end in tears. It’s time to apply this logic to the online world.
Here’s my suggestion to fix the gender wars online: Women should just log off. Given that men built the internet, along with the rest of modern civilisation, I think it’s only fair that they get to keep it. . . .

Read the whole thing at Breitbart.com.

Of course, the absolute worst to complain about online “harassment” are not actually women. Transgender weirdos like “Brianna Wu” (John Walker Flynt) and Nicholas “Sarah” Nyberg were among the whiniest opponents of GamerGate. Their self-created victimhood, like their self-created “womanhood,” is a delusion in which they would require the rest of us to participate. And, of course, the alleged “harassment” of feminist SJWs is endlessly publicized by the liberal media, whereas the harassment of conservatives (including conservative women) is generally ignored.

 

Our frequent commenter Jeanette Runyon is being sued in a Florida court by a man who is claiming “harassment,” etc., over a flame war that broke out in 2013 about the Kaitlyn Hunt case. Jeanette was one of a handful of people who followed the so-called “Free Kate” movement and exposed the extremism of those who made excuses for a tattoo-covered dildo-wielding dopehead lesbian hoodlum’s sexual abuse of a 14-year-old girl. The man who is suing Jeanette was one of the worst “Free Kate” fanatics who evidently believed either that (a) there should be no laws against statutory rape, or (b) it’s wrong to enforce the law against homosexual predators like Kate Hunt. Thomas Mix, the man who is suing Jeanette, called the parents of Kate Hunt’s 14-year-old victim “bigoted, disgusting people” who “used the laws to express their hatred and rage.”

Question: Why did Thomas Mix care so much about this case?

Here you have parents trying to protect their daughter from Kaitlyn Hunt, whose criminal acts were astonishingly brazen, and yet simply because this case involved homosexual behavior, Thomas Mix insisted that it was wrong for the victim’s parents to expect the law to be enforced. As I wrote of the case after a court hearing in October 2013:

Having sex with a 14-year-old is a crime in Florida, and the criminal sex offender Kaitlyn Hunt pleaded “no contest” today in Vero Beach, accepting the deal offered by prosecutors. It was the third such plea bargain Kaitlyn had been offered and, if she had taken the first deal back in May, nobody outside Indian River County ever would have heard of this foul-mouthed tattoo-covered teenage pervert.
Her parents didn’t think their precious little snowflake had done anything wrong, so they rejected the plea deal and decided to make their daughter The World’s Most Famous Sex Offender.

Everything that happened to Kate Hunt was her own fault.

 

She was an adult when she molested a 14-year-old girl. She was an adult when the girl’s parents asked her to leave their daughter alone. She was an adult when she decided to continue her obsessive pursuit of the victim despite knowing that this was a crime and having been warned by the girl’s parents. All she had to do was walk away, and the case might never have been prosecuted. Even after she was charged, however, Kaitlyn Hunt’s crimes would have been no more than a few lines in the local newspaper’s “police briefs” column, except that she refused to do what nearly everyone charged with such a crime would do in a similar circumstance — take the plea bargain.

No prosecutor ever wants to take a case like that to trial. It is inhumane to expose to cross-examination the victim of statutory rape who, as in the Kaitlyn Hunt case, was a “consensual” victim. The enforcement of statutory rape law is very difficult for this reason, and the subsequent events in this case showed why it is so difficult. Yet if parents are the rightful guardians of their own children’s safety — including the duty to protect teenagers against “consensual” exploitation — the perpetrators of these crimes must be prosecuted. It is rather notoriously true that many such crimes are never prosecuted simply because law enforcement never becomes aware of these crimes. The 15-year-old sneaks off and hooks up with a 19-year-old and nobody ever catches them or complains, so the cops and courts never become involved. In other cases, the parents of the underage victim become aware that their teenager is being pursued by an adult and, as in the Hunt case, the parents warn the pursuer to leave their child alone “or else.” Faced with the threat of criminal prosecution, almost any 18- or 19-year-old would desist from their pursuit, no matter how much they might be “in love” with a minor.

Kaitlyn Hunt did the wrong thing over and over and over again. She could have walked away, but she didn’t. Even after she was charged with serious crimes (of which she knew she was guilty) Kaitlyn Hunt could have accepted the plea bargain offered to her by prosecutors. She didn’t.

What happened instead was a strategy that one psychologist has named DARVO — Deny, Attack, and Reverse Victim and Offender:

DARVO refers to a reaction that perpetrators of wrong doing, particularly sexual offenders, may display in response to being held accountable for their behavior. The perpetrator or offender may Deny the behavior, Attack the individual doing the confronting, and Reverse the roles of Victim and Offender such that the perpetrator assumes the victim role and turns the true victim into an alleged offender. . . .
It is important to distinguish types of denial, for an innocent person will probably deny a false accusation. Thus denial is not evidence of guilt. However, I propose that a certain kind of indignant self-righteousness, and overly stated denial, may in fact relate to guilt.
I hypothesize that if an accusation is true, and the accused person is abusive, the denial is more indignant, self-righteous and manipulative, as compared with denial in other cases. Similarly, I have observed that actual abusers threaten, bully and make a nightmare for anyone who holds them accountable or asks them to change their abusive behavior. This attack, intended to chill and terrify, typically includes threats of lawsuits, overt and covert attacks, on the whistle-blower’s credibility and so on.
The attack will often take the form of focusing on ridiculing the person who attempts to hold the offender accountable. The attack will also likely focus on ad hominem instead of intellectual/evidential issues.

When the criminal claims to be a victim — denouncing law enforcement and demonizing truth-tellers — these DARVO tactics function to confuse observers unfamiliar with the factual background of the case. Anyone familiar with the Brett Kimberlin case knows how confusing this can be. Despite the facts of the case, Kimberlin’s bogus Maryland lawsuit against me and three other defendants went all the way to trial before it was thrown out, and even then, Kimberlin did not cease.

The use of “lawfare” as an element of DARVO tactics is a problem with which I am directly familiar and, while I am not fully aware of all the details of the conflict between Thomas Mix and Jeanette Runyon, his lawsuit against her seems dubious to me, based on my own experience. John Biver believes her case has profound significance:

The more the public learns about large sections of the pro-“homosexual” agenda crowd the easier it will be for proponents of common sense to retake the culture. The public will be stunned to learn how “un-gay,” that is unhappy, many of those people truly are. And because they are miserable people, they lash out. . . .
Sometimes these people with damaged psyches use the Internet to harass and slander those they disagree with.

Read the whole series:

Where are those who will defend Jeanette Runyon’s rights? Where are those who care about religious liberty? Where is the Army of Davids?

Stand up! Stand up! Stand up!

UPDATE: Linked by John Hoge at Hogewashthanks!

UPDATE II: Are you threatening me, Mr. Mix? Gosh, it’s almost like you believe you can out-crazy Stacy McCain.




 

 

Comments

30 Responses to “The @Nero Solution (and an Unfortunate Update on the #FreeKate Fallout)”

  1. DonaldDouglas
    July 6th, 2016 @ 10:10 am

    And what happened to @Not_RSMcCain?

  2. CrustyB
    July 6th, 2016 @ 10:28 am

    Lies fuel everything. America runs on lies.

    I refuse to use the word “gay.” Gay was the old time that the Flintstones had. Ginger Rogers was that kind of divorcee. The word for weirdos whose lives revolve around fecal matter and cannot reproduce sexually is “homosexual.” It’s clinical, distinct, and true, everything this country hates.

  3. Slidellman4life
    July 6th, 2016 @ 10:44 am

    This just infuriates me. Makes me want to go down there and open up a good old-fashioned can of WA against that boy.

  4. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 10:51 am

    I have known plenty of well adjusted homosexuals. In fact I’d expect that I know more than I think I do, for part of being well adjusted is not having a chip on your shoulder.

    On the other hand, I have known plenty of gays who had heads full of bad wiring, and in nearly all cases there could be little doubt that their sexual orientation was part of it. Whether a cause or an effect I cannot say, but we all have known some severely screwed up people who were also homosexual, and like most such damaged persons everything about their personality was a rancid festering stew of dysfunction.

    But wherever the sexual business fits in, being gay should not be an instant “get out of jail free” card, any more than being an addict should be one, but as you note deflectors gotta deflect. Kaitlyn and her defenders, instead of dealing with inappropriate and illegal behavior, made the story about lesbianism. The GamerGate SJWs made the story of journalistic conflict of interest and shady financial dealing about male bigots. And of course anybody not wholly and enthusiastically on board with Hillary is a misogynist troglodyte.

    If the real issue doesn’t favor you, change the topic to one that does.

  5. Jay
    July 6th, 2016 @ 11:53 am

    When the criminal claims to be a victim — denouncing law enforcement and demonizing truth-tellers — these DARVO tactics function to confuse observers

    To be fair though, this is sometimes legitimate. The UVA case comes to mind.

    Phi Kappa Psi was perfectly justified in denying the allegations, and saying they were the victim and that “Jackie” was the offender.

  6. Jeanette Victoria ?????????
    July 6th, 2016 @ 11:59 am

    It seems the Vero Beach barnacle has noticed the Streisand Effect and is annoyed. He is delusional as he truly believes he is going to win his malicious lawsuit. He isn’t too bright and is being led by the nose by pseudonymous troll @NicoleBonnet1. The FACT that he was a aggressive supporter of statutory rapist Kaitlyn Hunt that resorted to invective and smears seems to elude him.

    You know he has the audacity to lie under oath in Discovery and claim he was NOT a Kaitlyn Hunt supporter. His contention is because I called him a statutory rapist apologist that I was calling him a pedophile and therefore I threaten his safety. Of course all is this is past the Florida stature of limitations but for some reason his lawyer didn’t tell him that. His lawyer also hasn’t explained Brandenburg v. Ohio to him either.

  7. Peregrine John
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:22 pm

    And don’t forget Paree!

  8. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:26 pm

    And the Nineties!

    Um, from the century before the last one…

  9. 0Zen
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

    I’m posting here today to show my support of Ms. Runyon and her First Amendment rights. That being said. Not only was Mix a staunch supporter of Kaitlyn Hunt, he and Nicolebonnet1 as well as other members of the Free Kate Cabal went on a spree of having people suspended on Twitter who were trying to expose what a freak Kaitlyn Hunt was and still is. Since the Free Kate episode, both Mix and Nicolebonnet1 go out of their way in getting Twitter users using the #gunsense hashtag suspended for supporting 2nd Amendment rights. In other words, if you disagree with them, they will get you suspended. They seem to get away with this with due to the full backing of Twitter Safety and Support. There is documented evidence to support this.

  10. Peregrine John
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:27 pm

    “in the landmark Pew study on online harassment, women were more than twice as likely as men to say they were “very upset” by online harassment. That’s why, despite the fact that men are more likely to face abuse online, it’s mostly women you hear complaining about it”

    Hang on there a second. It’s not despite that fact. It’s because of it. Thick skin doesn’t come from coddling, it comes from contact. Saw a YouTube vid recently that went over an episode of Beauty and the Geek in which the girls had to put themselves out there in a social situation the way the lads always had. Beauty never had to risk before, and it was a shock to their snowflakes. Um, systems.

  11. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:30 pm

    What else would you expect from the Commisars at Twitter? Any entity not deliberately resiting the SJWs will eventually fall prey to them. It’s probably a corollary to O’Sullivan’s Law.

  12. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 1:35 pm

    Until recently, boys were encouraged to be risk takers, while girls in general were encouraged to be risk averse.

    Now we may argue all day whether that’s the result of the patriarchy imposing Rape Culture, or a natural outgrowth of male and female characteristics. I have a very strong hunch that the majority of opinion on this site will tend towards the latter postulate. Other sites will of course prefer the first one.

    I will note that viewed purely as a matter of reproduction strategies, females have much more to lose than males do – a male donates a few of his myriad sperm, a woman gives up nine months plus the years required to nurture and raise a child. That’s one strong argument for marriage, or at least monogamy – it protects the woman.

  13. Jeanette Victoria ?????????
    July 6th, 2016 @ 2:08 pm

    As you can see the stupid burns, he believes that no one should be allowed to post about him. If they do he thinks it is stalking. Anon troll @NicoleBonnet1 is still yanking his chain. Lynn hasn’t been on twitter and interacted with Mix for years and when she did it was minimal. But as you can see@NicoleBonnet1is leading Mix around by the nose.

  14. UPDATE: Why Would @NicoleBonnet1 and @_Lazarus___ Be Threatening Me? : The Other McCain
    July 6th, 2016 @ 2:20 pm

    […] I described Thomas Mix’s Florida lawsuit against Jeanette Runyon, suddenly Mix’s Twitter account (@_Lazarus___) began chattering away […]

  15. robertstacymccain
    July 6th, 2016 @ 2:21 pm

    “Experience keeps a dear school, but fools will learn in no other.” — Benjamin Franklin

  16. Peregrine John
    July 6th, 2016 @ 4:03 pm

    Yes, but we’re not talking sex, here, we’re talking sexes. A further, minor-looking quibble: boys weren’t (aren’t) exactly encouraged to be risk takers. Rather, they were actively discouraged from risky behavior, and (when no longer quite boys) were required to risk – their lives, their psyche, their future – at every level of life.

    To the contrary, girls have for at least a couple of generations been Encouraged! to do all those risky things, preferably with as much risk removed as possible and much cheerleading. Mid-60s onward, by my count.

    How’s all that going? Women who are willing to risk socially or physically, uncomplaining of words from unseen strangers, openly acknowledging of physical sex differences that are above the shoulder: are these the majority? Are they even a large minority? Are they complete outliers? How much “empowerment” would be needed?

  17. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 4:23 pm

    Well, but I think it pretty clear that “sex” explains many differences between the sexes. Different strategies of reproduction are going to affect behavior.

    Incidentally, there are physical differences in brain structure between the sexes. These affect how information is processed and also behavior.

    In any event, going against hardwired behavior is going to create tensions. You may argue whether the behaviors are still valid. Many feminists and their allies gleefully proclaim “the end of man” largely because the men they see on a daily basis are not traditionally masculine. They apparently think roads and buildings spring fully formed from the Earth, and that food spontaneously repopulates the shelves of the Whole Foods and that their electricity and plumbing come from entirely natural processes. And while culturally many, if not most men do not need to face physical danger to protect their families, that does not mean the reflexes and impulses of millions of years of evolution disappear simply because somebody with no real challenges in life got a Gender Studies degree.

  18. Steve Skubinna
    July 6th, 2016 @ 4:28 pm

    “Wisdom comes from experience. Experience often results from a lack of wisdom.”

    — Terry Pratchett

  19. Peregrine John
    July 6th, 2016 @ 4:35 pm

    Quite so. Well said.

  20. Dianna Deeley
    July 6th, 2016 @ 7:00 pm

    I don’t get all butthurt, generally, but I do admit that I think I’m far more easily shocked than most of the men of my acquaintance. Recognizing that, if it’s that bad, I’ll just withdraw. No one – especially me! – needs the drama.

  21. Daniel Freeman
    July 6th, 2016 @ 7:07 pm

    Well it could just be a coincidence, but right before being banned, that account quoted a feminist accurately (the herpes chick). They hate that.

  22. DeadMessenger
    July 6th, 2016 @ 8:13 pm

    “…like most such damaged persons everything about their personality was a rancid festering stew of dysfunction.”

    Don’t mince words, Skubina, tell us what you think. =)

  23. DeadMessenger
    July 6th, 2016 @ 8:51 pm

    Shocked is one thing. Butthurt is a completely different thing. And I’ve never seen you get all attitudinal or butthurt, ever.

  24. Should @Thomas_Arzi’s ‘Works of Darkness’ Be Hidden From the Light? : The Other McCain
    July 6th, 2016 @ 10:10 pm

    […] Mix does not like it when people call attention to his Florida lawsuit against Jeanette Runyon, and after I wrote about that case this morning, he and a person using the name “Nicole […]

  25. Joe Joe
    July 7th, 2016 @ 1:06 am

    I always thought that the reason the homosexual activists were so gung-ho about Kaitlyn Hunt (why are sexual evils named Kaitlyn?) was because they are trying to lower the age of consent, so older homosexuals can molest teenagers.

    On edit, I have to ask: why highlight the sensitivity of certain females on the internet (mostly SJWs) when Jeanette is so brave?

  26. Steve Skubinna
    July 7th, 2016 @ 10:41 am

    Actually there has been for some time a movement to mainstream pedophilia. Every now and then they misstep, as when Salon ran their pedo-sympathetic article last year and got severely burned.

  27. Steve Skubinna
    July 7th, 2016 @ 10:43 am

    I play it close to my vest.

    “Never tell anyone outside the family what you’re thinking.”

    — Don Vito Corleone

  28. The @Nero Solution (and an Unfortunate Update on the #FreeKate Fallout) – Scott's Blog
    July 7th, 2016 @ 1:12 pm

    […] First published at TheOtherMcCain.com […]

  29. Why Won’t @ThomasArzi_ Stop? : The Other McCain
    July 7th, 2016 @ 4:49 pm

    […] response of Thomas Mix to my coverage Wednesday of his Florida lawsuit against Jeanette Runyon has been shocking. He has repeatedly made statements on his Twitter account that would appear to be […]

  30. Joe Joe
    July 7th, 2016 @ 6:37 pm

    You are correct.