The Fraternity Initiation Rape Story

Posted on | December 26, 2014 | 50 Comments

“Weeks into my undergraduate career at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC), a friend told me she had been raped a few days earlier as part of a fraternity ‘initiation process.'”
— Annie E. Clark, Feb. 28, 2013, Huffington Post

When I saw that sentence, it struck me as weirdly similar to the story told in Rolling Stone by Sabrina Rubin Erdely:

A prestigious public university in the South.
A freshman girl raped during a fraternity initiation.
An activist’s story about administrative indifference to victims.

You may not recognize the name Annie E. Clark, but in January 2013, she was one of five complainants who accused UNC of violating the civil rights of female students in the handling of sexual assault charges:

Three UNC students, one former student and one former administrator filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Education Wednesday morning, claiming that the University facilitated a hostile environment for students reporting sexual assault.
The complaint, more than 30 pages in length, has emerged just one month after sophomore Landen Gambill and another female student revealed to The Daily Tar Heel how the University handled their rape cases.
Their stories — rich with what they called unequal treatment from administrators, inappropriate questioning in UNC’s Honor Court and blatant violations of rights — reflected what victims say is a deeply rooted problem at the University.
That problem prompted junior Andrea Pino and Annie Clark, who graduated from UNC in 2011, both of whom are sexual assault survivors, to spearhead the filing of the complaint in an effort to seek justice for survivors and change what they say is UNC’s culture of hostility. . . .
The complaint was also signed by Gambill, the female student who asked that her name not be used for safety reasons in the December [Daily Tar Heel] article, and former Assistant Dean of Students Melinda Manning, who stepped down from her position in December after 11 years at UNC.

Now, it is certainly not my intent to defend UNC’s administration or to claim to know what happened in any particular case. All I know about any of this is what the complainants themselves allege:

When sophomore Landen Gambill made the decision to press charges against her rapist through the University Honor Court in the spring of 2012, she assumed the process would be easy.
Armed with what she said were pages of convincing evidence that proved the guilt of her accused student-attacker, Gambill thought she was just a hearing away from getting the justice she deserved.
She had endured months of sexual abuse from a long-term boyfriend.
But she said not even that abuse could have prepared for her for the kind she suffered during the University’s handling of her sexual assault case — a process she said was fraught with a clear violation of her rights that left her psychologically damaged and her ex-boyfriend innocent.

Uh, “a long-term boyfriend”? Stipulate that people sometimes get into relationships with partners who abuse them. Still, if Landen Gambill had “pages of convincing evidence that proved the guilt” of her ex-boyfriend, why did she take her case to the University Honor Court rather than presenting this evidence to the police? The account Gambill gave the Daily Tar Heel of how she “was continually abused — sexually and verbally — by her long-term boyfriend” as a freshman at UNC, followed by “months of stalking, threats and harassment” after they broke up, is lacking in detail. Yet if his treatment of her was as bad as she says it was, why did she not pursue criminal charges against him?

That question must be left dangling, unanswered, because if Landen Gambill has ever explained this, I can’t find the explanation and it would be wrong to speculate. Therefore, let us return to Annie E. Clark’s Huffington Post column from February 2013:

Weeks into my undergraduate career at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC), a friend told me she had that been raped a few days earlier as part of a fraternity “initiation process.” I was a young advocate; I had heard stories of assault and I knew how to respond to survivors, but I had no idea what to do within the UNC university system. Therefore, I just went into action mode; my friend and I sat down in the wooden chairs in my residence hall room and began to Google resources and options for reporting… hours later, we still couldn’t find the proper university protocol.
When she asked me about my involvement in violence prevention, I shared that I was a recent rape survivor as well. We brainstormed, and together we came up with an idea: I would go to an administrator and report my assault the following week. I would figure out the resources available, and then I would share with her the process so that she could report as well.
We made a pact.
The next week I tried to report my assault. I was incredibly confident in my story as well as my new university home, and why wouldn’t I be? I was raped. It was violent. He was wrong.
“So why are you here today?” the administrator asked me.
“I want to report what happened and get counseling. I was raped.”
The response which I received left me both speechless and confused:
“Well… Rape is like football, if you look back on the game, and you’re the quarterback, Annie… is there anything you would have done differently?”
I was then handed a multiple page-survey to fill out about my rape.

You can read the whole thing, but surely I am not the only one who senses there is something distinctly weird about Clark’s story:

This occurred when Clark was a freshman in fall 2007.
Her friend tells her she was raped at a fraternity.
Clark had herself already become a rape victim at UNC.
Clark also describes herself as an “advocate,” someone involved in “violence prevention.”
After her friend reports being raped at a fraternity, Clark and the friend “brainstorm” and decide that — rather than report that crime to the police — what she needs to do is “figure out the resources available” by reporting her own “violent” rape to a university administrator.

Do you see what I mean in saying this is distinctly weird? I am not saying that Clark is lying, I’m saying that her story contradicts any common-sense understanding of what victims of rape should do. The reaction she describes from the UNC administrator — “is there anything you would have done differently?” — also seems distinctly weird, but here I will risk a speculative explanation: University officials hear stories like hers quite often, criminal prosecution is impossible, and all they can do is to attempt to comfort the victim and help her avoid repeated victimization.

It’s always a “he-said, she-said” situation, you see. The college girl and the college boy hook up, usually when both of them are drunk, and in the aftermath — often several days or weeks later — the girl declares that what happened between them was rape. There is no way to prove as a matter of criminal law that a rape occurred, however, and so the girl (and I use the word “girl” deliberately, because these stories almost always involve a teenage victim, usually a freshman) turns to campus officials and becomes involved in an extra-judicial administrative process like UNC’s Honor Court system.

One suspects the “Unfortunate Sexual Incident” files are stacked to the ceiling at a large public university like UNC. How many times a year do officials hear some variation of the stories told by Landen Gambill and Annie Clark? And how many times does it have to be explained that, in any “he-said, she-said” situation where (a) the victim was voluntarily alone with the accused rapist, (b) there is no clear evidence of rape, and (c) the accused rapist does not confess his guilt, it is impossible to prosecute the Unfortunate Sexual Incident as a crime?

Surely no one would seriously contend that officials at UNC or any other prestigious institution of higher education are pro-rape, yet these officials are in effect being accused of enabling rape and thereby violating the civil rights of their female students. Short of returning to an old-fashioned system of curfews and chaperones, or at least a determined crackdown on underage drinking, however, it’s hard to see what universities can be expected to do about the campus environment within which the Unfortunate Sexual Incident typically occurs.

The law of large numbers is at work here. Every fall, tens of thousands of teenage freshman girls show up on the campuses of colleges and universities. They go to parties, get drunk and hook up with boys. Some percentage of those hook-ups will be unpleasant, including some which are clearly criminal. Yet among those many hundreds of Unfortunate Sexual Incident files which pile up in the offices of university administrators, only a few will contain the kind of testimony and evidence that can lead to a successful criminal prosecution. This will leave the majority of complainants feeling that they have been betrayed by the system. Here were can cite the account of Landen Gambill:

“It’s incredibly clear that those people had no idea what sexual assault is, what consent is,” said Landen Gambill, a sophomore whose assault case was processed by interim procedures.
“They were not only offensive and inappropriate, but they were so victim-blaming.
“They made it seem like my assault was completely my fault.” . . .
In her trial, Gambill said she was forced to answer irrelevant and inappropriate questions.
“The woman student said to me, ‘Landen, as a woman, I know that if that had happened to me, I would’ve broken up with him the first time it happened. Will you explain to me why you didn’t?’” she said.
Gambill said the court used her history of clinical depression and her suicide attempt — which she said was a result of her abusive relationship — against her.
“They implied that I was emotionally unstable and couldn’t be telling the truth because I had attempted suicide,” she said.

As I said previously, Landen Gambill’s account includes no detail of the abuse she suffered from her long-term boyfriend, and it would not be appropriate to speculate. Yet the reactions she describes from the Honor Court officials, and their unwillingness to take disciplinary action against Gambill’s ex-boyfriend, should lead us to pause and ask, “What really happened? Why did she keep dating this guy, if his behavior toward her was so atrocious?”

Here it is helpful to know that simply getting admitted to the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill is an academic honor. Only 29% of applicants are accepted and, among those accepted, 78% were in the top 10% of their high-school senior class. So we may assume Landen Gambill is highly intelligent, and that her ex-boyfriend, a fellow UNC student, is not a lowbrow street thug. How is it, then, that this elite young man sexual brutalizes this elite young woman who endures his brutality for many months as part of their relationship?

Maybe I’m naïve. Maybe I simply lack the sophistication to understand the habits and attitudes of these elite students. Or maybe I could make an educated guess about what’s happening.

Never mind my guesses about that, however.

Right now, my suspicious mind is focused on how Annie Clark describes hearing a fellow UNC freshman’s tale of being raped “as part of a fraternity ‘initiation process'” in 2007. Clark told that story in a January 2013 Huffington Post column and then in the fall of 2014 we find that the story of a freshman at the University of Virginia being raped as part of a fraternity initiation becomes the focal point of Rolling Stone‘s story about campus “rape culture.”

If this is not merely a coincidence, what kind of non-coincidence is it? The Rolling Stone UVA story has been ripped to shreds, but what about this seemingly similar UNC story told by Annie Clark? Is it possible that some fraternities at some universities actually do encourage sexual assault as part of their initiation process? If so, why would these (hitherto unsuspected) practices be reported as having occurred at two quite prestigious southern universities, in stories appearing in two different liberal media venues, within the span of two years?

Is this just an Atlantic Coast Conference problem, or what? Are there no rape initiations for fraternities at second-tier state universities? Are freshman girls not being raped by frat pledges in the Midwest, or at private schools in the Northeast?

There is something distinctly weird about this, and I don’t know what it is. However, I can report that Annie Clark has turned her activism into a full-time career as co-founder of a non-profit group called End Rape on Campus: “After directly working with New York Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, she helped write the Bi-Partisan Campus Safety and Accountability Act.” Do you suppose that Annie Clark and her group had any contact with Sabrina Erdely or Erdely’s UVA liaison Emily Renda? I mean, we already know that Emily Renda’s anti-rape activism led to her testifying in June at a Senate hearing chaired by Iowa Democrat Tom Harkin:

“A range of sanctions is about getting survivors through the door,” Emily Renda, a special intern in the Office of the Vice President and Chief Student Affairs Officer, at the University of Virginia, said before the committee. Renda spent much of her time at college working on sexual assault-related activism and worked with a White House task force that investigated campus sexual assault. . . .
Some of Harkin’s fellow senators, including Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., and Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., have been leading reform efforts.

So, Kirsten Gillibrand is “leading reform efforts,” and Kirsten Gillibrand worked with Annie Clark’s “End Rape on Campus” group, and Emily Renda (who “spent much of her time at college working on sexual assault-related activism”) turns out to be the official UVA contact for Rolling Stone‘s Erdely, who told this story about a freshman girl being raped as part of a fraternity initiation.

Maybe this is all just a coincidence, but it is distinctly weird.

Category: Crime, Education, Feminism

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Political Rift » The Fraternity Initiation Rape Story
December 26th, 2014 @ 3:34 pm

[…] Robert Stacy McCain “Weeks into my undergraduate career at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (UNC), a […]
Evi L. Bloggerlady
December 26th, 2014 @ 3:43 pm

A recent graduate who attended Hofstra at the same time as Kazantsev told Jezebel that the final two steps of pledging in one (unnamed) sorority involved making all of the pledges remove their underwear and sit on newspapers while the older members forced them to watch lesbian porn. Anyone whose newspaper stuck to them at the end of the video, the former student said, was branded a dyke, ridiculed, and tossed out. The remaining girls were then forced to perform oral sex on their sorority “big sisters.”

http://jezebel.com/miss-america-was-kicked-out-of-her-sorority-for-abusive-1636095561

See, if only Kaitlyn Hunt stayed in school!
Phil_McG
December 26th, 2014 @ 4:09 pm

“Yet if his treatment of her was as bad as she says it was, why did she not pursue criminal charges against him?

That question must be left dangling, unanswered, because if Landen Gambill has ever explained this, I can’t find the explanation and it would be wrong to speculate.”

Perhaps.

Allow me to speculate anyway: she’s a liar.

Most likely she only decided she was a victim of ‘abuse’ after the boyfriend dumped her, and she thought the university’s own disciplinary process would offer an easy way to punish him.

For a whole generation of mollycoddled, emotionally brittle young women, indoctrinated by feminist academia and social media to see “microaggressions” and “rape culture” everywhere, crying “rape!” comes as naturally as crying “witch!” did in Salem, 1692.

Facts be damned, this is about precious feelings.

“it’s hard to see what universities can be expected to do about the campus environment within which the Unfortunate Sexual Incident typically occurs.”

The endgame is full feminist control over universities, with all men living in a state of constant fear that at any moment they might be accused of “rape”, then have their reputation and future prospects destroyed. The feminists don’t want the police and courts to get involved with campus “rape”, because the criminal justice system still requires evidence, corroboration and due process.

They want a parallel quasi-judicial system of feminist-dominated university disciplinary committees – the radfem equivalent of Sharia courts – to operate under the assumption that all “rape” claims must be believed, which means all accused men must be treated as guilty.

As creepy male feminist Ezra Klein put it, they want feminist policies to “settle like a cold winter on college campuses, throwing everyday sexual practice into doubt and creating a haze of fear and confusion over what counts as consent.”

This is about revenge. Revenge on normal heterosexual young men for not getting with the progressive programme. Revenge on white fraternity boys in particular for embodying everything the progressives hate.

Campus rape culture hysteria is a microcosm of what happens to society as a whole when progressives gain power – normal social interactions are politicised and a war of all against all is formented.

This only ends when the progressives are rounded up and tossed out of aeroplanes without a parachute, or similarly put back in their place.
jakee308
December 26th, 2014 @ 4:16 pm

I always ask the same question to all those who claim to have endured abusive boyfriends for YEARS; “Why didn’t you LEAVE?”.

All the rest is just side issues. (if they did leave and were pursued, that’s now a different story and different crime but in many of these cases, the female is still living with the male when she makes these charges.)
robertstacymccain
December 26th, 2014 @ 5:07 pm

“This is about revenge.”

Certainly, if we must suggest a motive for false accusations, revenge is one obvious answer. The problem is that we simply don’t have enough information to know whether any particular accusation like this is true. That’s the problem with these “he-said, she-said” cases, that it is impossible for us to know the truth. Feminists say, “We must believe the victims!” However, in a witch-hunt climate like this, accusers seem to proliferate and we keep encountering cases where highly-publicized claims of victimhood are exposed as being not entirely credible.

I have no idea who Landen Gambill’s ex-boyfriend is, and know nothing at all about her or her relationship with him, except what I read in a couple of articles. So I can’t understand her motives either for staying in an abusive relationship with this guy, or for subsequently accusing him of sexual assault, etc.

That’s the difference, really, between my approach to these stories and the feminist approach, where you have these activist types who know nothing more about the stories than what they read online, yet they are ABSOLUTELY CONVINCED that the accuser’s version of events is 100% true, no matter how farfetched the accusations seem from a common-sense perspective.
Kaiser Derden
December 26th, 2014 @ 5:18 pm

they are lying …
Adobe_Walls
December 26th, 2014 @ 5:52 pm

Absolutely correct in every respect and damn well put, kudos. However I suspect the solution in your last paragraph needlessly endangers people on the ground.
Adobe_Walls
December 26th, 2014 @ 5:56 pm

The third instance in this string of ”coincidences” will answer many of your questions.
Dana
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:10 pm

And here is the problem:

I was a young advocate; I had heard stories of assault and I knew how to respond to survivors, but I had no idea what to do within the UNC university system.

If the response is limited to within the University system, it’s almost foredoomed to failure. University administrators are neither trained nor inclined to handle these things, and the proper response to being the victim of a crime is to report he crime to the police!

If we assume that the rape complaint is legitimate, but the only action taken is taken within the university system, the most serious punishment which can be meted out to the rapist is expulsion. If he is truly a rapist, he belongs in jail, but the actions contemplated leave the rapist completely free, and able to rape another victim.
ChandlersGhost
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:18 pm

I’m starting to think that the fraternity gang rape is of the same category as the mass murdering Tea Party activist. Both happen all the time on left wing television dramas but not in real life.
Greg
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:19 pm

UNC forced ex boyfriend out of school. Melinda Manning is part of lawsuit n she was fired from UNC for inflating sex assault #’s. National Coalition For Men Carolina’s is I think, the premier expert on this case.
Dana
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:22 pm

There should be external evidence if breaking up with the alleged victim was “followed by ‘months of stalking, threats and harassment,'” then there should be a police report and restraining order against the stalker . . . unless, of course, the alleged victim failed to report that behavior as well.

It seems to me that the university feminists need to change their tactics, starting from the very beginning in telling coeds that they need to be strong enough to report this stuff to the police. How can feminism mean anything if the feminists are not trying to instill strength into women? Women need to have an “I’m not taking any crap from anybody” attitude, because that’s what is required to make it in today’s world.
Jim R
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:22 pm

Some years ago, I had a chat with the lefty then-GF of a friend of mine. I found that she volunteered at rape hotline. I was astounded the learn that they most definitely do NOT call the cops or urge the women to do so. “They’ve already had their power taken from them; we don’t want to do it again.”

This is what feminists have done for women: by making rape a touchy-feely-it’s-all-about-her-power thing instead of a FRIGGIN’ FELONY, they make it OK for women to delay reporting to anybody (least of all the cops), leaving actual rapists at large to do it again. Instead, rape becomes a some sort of weird rite of passage, a tale to be swapped with other survivors in a coffee klatch. Again, this leaves actual rapists at large to do it again.

I’ve written before that I understand that rape is a horrible trauma, and victims, in shock, confused, blaming themselves, and perhaps badly hurt, don’t want to talk about it to the police or submit to a physical exam. If feminists were really interested in helping rape victims, they would support them going to the cops, NOT waiting for months to go tell a non-confrontational campus paper pusher.

Oh, and encourage concealed carry. Yeah, like any lefty would support THAT.
Dana
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:25 pm

In other words, an alleged rapist was forced out of the university, but is still out on the streets today.

If he really wasn’t a rapist, then he has suffered a huge injustice; if he really is a rapist, then he has pretty much gotten away with rape, and if free to rape again.
Greg
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:34 pm

This article n the comments have some info.

http://www.avoiceformen.com/mens-rights/false-rape-culture/unc-landen-gambill-and-false-rape-culture/
Fail Burton
December 26th, 2014 @ 6:52 pm

Imagine Muslims encouraging other Muslims to nott report burglaries by non-Muslims and instead report it to a sharia committee. Without the constraint of law, due process and rules of evidence, one can turn that crime into an attempted kidnapping or hate crime, or whatever one wishes. Carry that thought forward and then see this creepy ideology for what it is.
Adobe_Walls
December 26th, 2014 @ 7:17 pm

Well it isn’t as if we didn’t already know that we needed to abolish the Department of Education. That would be the first step in solving any and all of the problems in education and it’s institutions at every level.
Charles
December 26th, 2014 @ 7:30 pm

“Is it possible that some fraternities at some universities actually do encourage sexual assault as part of their initiation process?”

If sexual assault includes talking drunk girls into giving blow jobs to groups of frat boys, then yes. And by some definitions, that’s rape.

It’s inside the traditional bounds of academic institutions to expel students for conduct like this. It’s just reimposing the campus rules of the 1950s, without admitting that’s what they are doing.
Eidolon
December 26th, 2014 @ 7:37 pm

I feel like you skipped over another bizarre detail. So let me get this woman straight. She’s an “advocate” who helped survivors of rape and such deal with things. This person, who was involved with advocacy, had been raped — but she hadn’t reported it? Why the hell not? What had stopped her from reporting it sooner? Why did someone else’s story suddenly mean that she was going to do something about her own? Does that seem plausible?

Would a person who had their house broken into wait until someone else complained about a similar crime to report it? Especially if they worked for the neighborhood watch? No normal person would do that. If I wanted to make myself feel important and had a bit of a screw loose, however, I might make up a story in order to seem like I was feeling someone else’s pain and also so I would be just as important as them (having been raped being a bit of a badge of honor among crazy feminists).
Steve White
December 26th, 2014 @ 7:54 pm

“Yet among those many hundreds of Unfortunate Sexual Incident files which pile up in the offices of university administrators, only a few will contain the kind of testimony and evidence that can lead to a successful criminal prosecution. This will leave the majority of complainants feeling that they have been betrayed by the system. ”

Perhaps at some point the majority of complainants would begin to think that instead of being “betrayed”, they were just in an unfortunate situation that they had to work through. Perhaps “rape survivors” like Ms. Clark would then work on what to me (as a patriarchal, cis-heteronormative male) would be the most logical reform they could push: a reform that would help young women gather the kind of testimony and evidence that would indeed lead to prosecution of rapists.

Perhaps (I’m just speculating, mind you) they could work on programs that would get young rape victims to hospitals where rape counselors, ER nurses and docs, and police could collect the evidence. Perhaps we could even develop “rape kits” that would make collecting the evidence easier. Perhaps Ms. Clark would help the local police develop a rapid telephone system where trained personnel could respond quickly to a rape crisis. Perhaps together they could persuade the local phone company to implement a rapid connection system. I can’t remember the seven-digit police phone number but perhaps we might develop one that would be more universal — say 3 digits or so?

Perhaps we could persuade prosecutors that it’s in their career and political interests to put rapists in prison. We might also have to persuade the courts of this, I dunno.

See where I’m going Ms. Clark? If you’re really interested in stopping rape on campus, there are tools available. Today.
Jim R
December 26th, 2014 @ 8:11 pm

Just so. This is absolute craziness.
Phil_McG
December 26th, 2014 @ 8:15 pm

Feminists may be either wrong or crazy, but they’re not, on the whole, stupid.

Why do they not encourage young women to report rape to the police immediately, while there’s still forensic evidence to be collected and the authorities might be able to do something about it?

Because that wouldn’t serve the feminists’ purpose, which actually has nothing to do with preventing rape, and everything to do with poisoning the well of normal male-female relationships to further their insane political agenda.

When you read the stories of these campus “rape” victims, it’s striking how many of them had to be talked into defining a bad sexual experience as rape, often weeks or months after the event.

Talked into it by whom?

Sabrina Erderly touched on the answer in her infamous Rolling Stone article, when she complained – falsely – that UVa has no “radical feminist culture seeking to upend the patriarchy”.

In fact, there is a rape crisis cottage industry at UVa and other universities, with a large “Gender Studies” department to teach kids that they’re all victims of the evil heterosexual white man, and a lively rape “survivor” scene where girls get together to share stories and tell each other how brave they are. That’s where the famous Jackie honed her tale.

The last thing the rape crisis industry – and the increasing number of paid advocates, facilitators, and co-ordinators working in it – want is for their narrative to be disrupted by the cops and their patriarchal insistence on facts.
Adobe_Walls
December 26th, 2014 @ 8:27 pm

One would think that if ”traditions” like that were prevalent on a year in and year out basis, we’d have been hearing a lot more about it. I find it hard to believe that even this ”paragon of self-discipline” generation currently attending college doesn’t contain at least a couple of individuals who would find participating in such activities too much fun not to share.
Jeanette Victoria
December 26th, 2014 @ 9:15 pm

I’m getting reruns of the Satanic sexual abuse hysteria……I don’t believe a word of this hysteria, just how sane is this Annie E. Clark?
Jeanette Victoria
December 26th, 2014 @ 9:21 pm

I’ve run into a couple of these “advocates” one ended up in Patton state hospital turned out she was a paranoid schizophrenic, and yet she had a master’s and was a social worker. Scary stuff. Look up Diana Napolis aka Curio Jones
Jeanette Victoria
December 26th, 2014 @ 9:24 pm

And perhaps delusional
Klown 2.0
December 26th, 2014 @ 10:40 pm

I used to be a defense investigator. I told people my job was to shake the tree and see if any monkeys fell out. I always started by reading the police report, and if I noticed anything that seemed weird I honed in on that first.
Daniel Freeman
December 26th, 2014 @ 10:54 pm

There is something distinctly weird about this, and I don’t know what it is.

Why, it’s almost like they’ve already decided on using the “rape culture” crowbar to simultaneously unpack the elite, Southern, Christian, and conservative layers of the kyriarchal onion of oppression, and they’re just looking for the right spot to pry at.

Weird.
Evi L. Bloggerlady
December 26th, 2014 @ 10:58 pm

I can never tell from these limited records who is telling the truth, other than to conclude there is way too little to convict someone criminally. That does not mean all these cases are false. I would encourage young women and young men to choose partners carefully…
Fail Burton
December 26th, 2014 @ 11:29 pm

Gender feminism is like a group of vigilantes who make up imaginary laws and crime to increase business.

If the villagers with torches don’t have a Frankenstein they’ll make one up before they give up their torches.
Fail Burton
December 26th, 2014 @ 11:33 pm

#justlisten
Steve White
December 27th, 2014 @ 12:01 am

I was a young advocate; I had heard stories of assault and I knew how to respond to survivors, but I had no idea what to do within the UNC university system.

A real effective “advocate”, this one. Real knowledge base you got there. I think I see at least one problem.
Justice4All
December 27th, 2014 @ 1:22 am

To your point, much of what is publicly known about the Gambill case is found on the NCFMC website at: http://www.ncfmcarolinas.com/#!unc-chapel-hill/cxvz
Fail Burton
December 27th, 2014 @ 3:33 am

I’m pretty sure being talked into an act of depravity isn’t rape. It is a lapse of judgment to be drunk and hang out with such acquaintances and not against the law.
Daniel Freeman
December 27th, 2014 @ 3:57 am

Don’t tell us not to throw pitchforks around; teach cis-het white men not to be scary!
daialanye
December 27th, 2014 @ 9:49 am

Let’s keep the Feds out of this since publicity hogs like Kirsten Gillibrand always make matters worse.

Most of these incidents could be treated properly at the state level by ordering colleges—either through legislation or executive order—to report each and every accusation of rape to the police. Expected results: college administrations in the clear, frivolous accusations reduced, criminals more surely punished, frequency of on-campus rape ultimately reduced.
Jeanette Victoria
December 27th, 2014 @ 10:17 am

We don’t even know if there is a REAL ex-boyfriend or just some guy she met.
Steve White
December 27th, 2014 @ 11:27 am

Brilliant. While a state legislature couldn’t force a private university to comply (I think), they certainly could require their publicly-supported schools to do so. A bill to require this would be extraordinary fun: just watch the college administrators and wimmins advocates squirm as they argue why such a law would be ‘counter-productive’.
Fail Burton
December 27th, 2014 @ 3:43 pm

Why would a hate cult wish the police to learn about their campaign against phantom crimes? If you have a rash of burglaries in a neighborhood you don’t go to the neighborhood association and leave the police on the outside while you trump up charges and evict your neighbors unless you don’t like your neighbors and need a witchhunt to expel them.

And everyone’s supporting this rash of phantom crimes from the President to some sociopathic wannabe author who rants on Twitter all day about white supremacy, including one ditz who claims she can’t keep quite about an ongoing “pogrom” in America and that as an English teacher at Queen’s College she’ll bravely risk never having tenure in favor of Tweeting paranoiac group libel 7 days a week.
Dana
December 27th, 2014 @ 7:36 pm

Mr McG wrote:

Feminists may be either wrong or crazy, but they’re not, on the whole, stupid.

Yes they are. When being wrong means that you have completely ignored reality to push your own agenda, yes, you are stupid.
Adjoran
December 28th, 2014 @ 2:16 am

While few states require reporting of a crime, where there is knowledge of the perpetrator’s identity, failure to do so is effectively acting as an accessory after the fact, called in some states ‘misprision of a felony,’ which is a separate crime in itself.

So, yes, they could be required – and in fact ARE already required in most states – to report any felony where they have a name of the offender.
Adjoran
December 28th, 2014 @ 2:50 am

One more dot to connect: in both the UVA & UNC tales, the ‘initiation’ rape occurs within the first few weeks of the fall semester. Oops!

Even where schools permit fraternities to have fall ‘rushes’ and pledge classes, there are no ‘initiations’ in the early weeks. The whole purpose of the pledge class is to make them earn their way in through acting as servants to members. This is drawn out for a couple of months, so that any ‘initiation’ occurs near the end of a semester.

This lie comes from a lack of knowledge of the Greek practices, which shows in the faulty fables. In reality, pledges rarely had any illegal tasks even in Ye Good Olde Days of the Patriarchy and, if they did, it was stealing a rival school’s mascot or statue or tower bell, not rape.

The myth may come from biker lore, where legend held that females seeking to ride with the gang had to be ‘initiated’ by having sex with all members, or a new male gang member had to bring a woman willing to do them all. But even this is more fiction than fact, I don’t think the practice has even been documented as being a rite of any major gang. If it happened, it may have been an isolated instance – although some of the most notorious ‘gang rape’ tales against biker gangs were debunked by Hunter S. Thompson in the ’60s: http://www.thenation.com/article/motorcycle-gangs
Art Deco
December 28th, 2014 @ 7:38 pm

Alternate explanation:
1. He did little that was precisely criminal;
2. She stuck with him because she was into him, and into him for reasons entwined with his disagreeable behaviors.
3. She suffers from a vice which has a feminine signature: a weak grasp of personal agency. I would put serious money on a wager that when carefully questioned, she reveals a mind which puts a great deal of energy into rationalization (she cannot be blamed or it’s someone else’s doing) and indignation (at being held accountable).
bannedforselfcensorship
December 31st, 2014 @ 12:44 am

Just a thought. I wonder if the female students are a few weeks into a women’s studies course…and they’ve had some ideas planted in their heads.
TheAmishDude
December 31st, 2014 @ 1:21 am

Or sociology or anthropology or any of the social “sciences”. Yeah, there’s nothing that young girls who want to save the world find more attractive than an easy class that tells them they’re entitled to everything for free.

Maybe we should stop thinking about “education” as anything that involves 50-minute periods, a few slide presentations and a scantron sheet every few weeks.
TheAmishDude
December 31st, 2014 @ 1:36 am

I got the really creepy vibe from “Jackie” that she really really liked the survivor group. Like it was cool or something.
JohnSkookum
December 31st, 2014 @ 1:52 am

I was at a Big State U. in the late 70’s, when there was no herpes, no AIDS, no chlamydia, antibiotics still worked on the clap, and every coed was on the Pill. It was the heyday of “if it feels good, do it!” It was also a time when what is now called “date rape” was unknown. If a woman went willingly to your bed and removed her clothing, she had pretty much signed up for whatever came next, in the eyes of society. And I was a member of the most debauched fraternity on campus. We used every kind of drug. We had parties where any young woman, whether sorority girl, independent college girl, or townie truck-stop waitress, was welcome, and ID’s were never checked. When we scored with them, we engaged in public sex, group sex, anal sex, and any other variation we could talk her (or them) into. We had kegs on tap 24/7. We hazed our pledges unmercifully, including HARD paddling. We stole stuff and vandalized stuff. We tolerated crude racial and religious bigotry. It was probably as close as reality has ever come to the movie “Animal House”.

And we would never have tolerated gang rape as part of an initiation. Never. We never heard anything like it proposed, we never heard of any other fraternity doing any such thing, we would have been sickened and repelled at the thought. I doubt it has ever been a part of the initiation into any fraternity on any campus at any time in the nation’s history.

When I hear the wild allegations these girls are making about “fraternity initiation” gang rapes, I am convinced that most of them are confabulating under the effect of the kind of false memories we saw implanted in the moral panic we had a couple of decades ago about day-care child molestation. They have watched so many movies, and read so many half-condemnatory, half-titillating Cosmopolitan articles, and seen so many Lifetime channel specials where fraternities rape with eager impunity, that they can no longer tell fantasy from reality. And the rest of them are knowingly lying to advance the feminist/cultural-Marxist narrative.
Mary123s
December 31st, 2014 @ 2:49 pm

i’m a lefty and I SO support that
Jim R
December 31st, 2014 @ 3:30 pm

I won’t tell anybody if you don’t.
😉
Da St
January 1st, 2015 @ 9:58 am

To judge by the actual data, rape has been nearly ended on campuses. Of course it should be ended entirely–it should be ended entirely everywhere. (Leftists are, though, content if it happens among Muslims, because it’s culturally acceptable in Islam; as far as lefties are concerned, Islam is an everything-goes zone, because criticizing anything in Islamic environs is Islamophobic and racist.)

So as it has been nearly eliminated on campuses, we’ll get more, not less, “activism” about campus rape, because it’s not about rape victims, it’s about rape activists’ own egos.

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