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The Profoundly Dishonest Brett Kimberlin

Posted on | June 3, 2012 | 45 Comments

‘Speedway Bomber’ Brett Kimberlin was sentenced to 50 years in 1981

FROM AN UNDISCLOSED LOCATION
While researching further background material, I happened upon a November 2011 post at DFQ2 in which Seth Allen discussed Brett Kimberlin’s ties to the left-wing news site Raw Story. Allen was particularly interested in Larisa Alexandrovna, a former Raw Story reporter who is an indefatiguable defender — or perhaps we should say, idolator — of Kimberlin.

In October 2006, a contributor to Democrat Underground discovered Kimberlin’s criminal past and wrote a post asking, “Is it smart to have our cause of election reform tied to a known, convicted bomber?” Alexandrovna posted 13 comments on that thread defending Kimberlin as having been wrongly convicted, secretly exonerated, etc.

What caught my eye in the DU thread, however, was not Alexandrovna’s defenses of Kimberlin, but rather the biography of himself Kimberlin had published — quoted in Comment #15 on the thread — while promoting his band, Epoxy:

Epoxy arose out of the hellish depths of Brett’s time in prison for exercising his First Amendment rights to speech and political activity. Without any trial, Brett was hauled off to federal prison after being targeted by right-wingers who wanted to punish him for being a musician, writing a book and speaking out about politics.

What a sociopathic liar he is.

Of course, there was a trial. Kimberlin wasn’t imprisoned “for exercising his First Amendment rights,” nor was he “targeted by right-wingers.”

His crimes were committed during the Carter presidency, and the prosecuting attorneys included John J. “Jack” Thar, who is still alive and well and practicing law in Indiana. 

You could ask Jack Thar whether he is a “right-winger” who “targeted” Brett Kimberlin “for exercising his First Amendment rights.”

– Robert Stacy McCain, Whereabouts Unknown

 

 

UPDATE: Raw Story Disavows Ties to Kimberlin.

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Category: The Kimberlin Files

Comments

45 Responses to “The Profoundly Dishonest Brett Kimberlin”

  1. PaulLemmen
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:02 am

    My supposition is this: Since fully 90% of parole violations are “technical” in nature, that is, in violation of one of the conditions of parole (in Kimberlins case, failure to pay a court imposed judgment in a CIVIL case, not the case in main), these cases are usually handled by a junior associate US Attorney, overworked and underpaid, that make a “deal” for time behind bars and release conditions. The usual practice is an offer of a few years (1-3) back in prison and up to 5 years on supervised release.
    Back in prison, he could play the martyr, be free of the financial obligation of the civil case while incarcerated and make plans, knowing that he played the system. Once released in 2000, he simply continued his activities while on up to the maximum five years supervised release. That means that by 2005, he was a free man, no parole, no supervision, nothing. From here, his lies and delusions (as well as his propensity to scams) would lead to the “secret exoneration” fallacy.

  2. Monitor2112
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:05 am

    Amazing.  He really does seem to be able to lie his way out of almost anything.  He has a lie, and he has people to back UP THAT LIE.

    I particularly liked Post #64.  Somenoe got it.

  3. MrPaulRevere
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:14 am

    ‘Lasher’ on post #66 of the DU thread wrapped it up very nicely and put a bow on it: “This guy reminds me of Charles Manson.”

  4. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:16 am

    Keep up the good work Stacy.  

  5. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:21 am

    The Raw Story is also a profoundly dishonest site.  But I do like to go there occasionally and leave comments.  I am sure that they consider me their Anamika, but the difference is I am right.  

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  7. Bob Miller
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:37 am

    Kimberlin misses Bubba and those long warm showers and snuggling in the rack every night. We should get those two back together.

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  9. creeper00
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:42 am

    That this lying, murderous POS is responsible for Aaron Walker’s arrest, the three SWATtings and your flight, Stacy, is beyond comprehension. 

    I think, though, that Aaron’s situation is going to backfire on them.  Any reasonably competent lawyer should be able to make mincemeat out of Speedway Bomber Brett Kimberlin once they get him back in court. 

    Thanks to all our bloggers who are enduring this persecution on our behalf. 

  10. Mike G.
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:45 am

    What’s funny and apropos to me is how Kimberlin is being exposed by using his own methods against him.
      http://thatmrgguy.wordpress.com/2012/06/03/brettkimberlin-exposed-by-his-own-methods-of-operation-karma-anyone/

  11. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:49 am

    Free Robert Stacy McCain…

  12. Saul
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:16 am

    I’m convinced Kimberlin’s issues are pathological, i.e., driven by a severe personality disorder. That’s why the idea of shaming him into retreat cannot succeed. He has a deeply abnormal personality, and he will not respond to pressure in the way normal people do. You cannot back down a guy who was literally willing to kill people (at least in the 1970s) over his obsessions, and you can never embarrass him about his lies. No matter what you do to him, he will out-vicious you, and just make up more self-serving lies. Somebody put it this way: “he has no f____ soul.” That’s a metaphysical take on the situation, but the reality is there’s probably an established psychological diagnosis for his particular syndrome of behaviors.
     

  13. Saul
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:21 am

    his lies and delusions (as well as his propensity to scams) 

    Oh, the ironic self-righteousness.

  14. RosalindJ
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:39 am

    Like people of his particular bent, he is more than likely preening over the attention these exposures have given him. There hasn’t been any direct consequence. Yet.

  15. JeffS
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:57 am

    Don’t project so much, Saul.  Karma is indeed a bitch.

  16. JeffS
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 12:18 pm

    The whole point of blogging about Kimberlin is not to shame that creature into retreat.  As you (and others) say, Kimberlin has f_____g soul. 

    Hence, he has no sense of shame.   Kimberlin has been permitted (whether by accident or design is immaterial at this point) to follow the calls of his inner demons, and ruin the lives of good people as a consequence.  He has been enabled through the action/inaction of others, and like any sociopath, will not restrain himself. 

    No, the point is, as Sun Tzu wrote:

    If you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of
    a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every
    victory gained you will also suffer a defeat.

    This is a political/legal battle, but that axiom still holds true.  Kimberlin is a member of the enemy ranks; his actions alone prove that.  This particular enemy plays by different rules (such as they are).  Understanding this enemy and their “rules”, bringing their history into the light of day, helps us to better address this threat to freedom and liberty.

    (As for knowing yourself, well, that’s your problem.  I can’t help you on that.)

    But there’s another benefit to this publicity.  Kimberlin can’t be shamed, but  his some of his supporters could be shamed.  Or embarrassed.  Cutting off or reducing his support would seriously hinder Kimberlin, and the possibility must be pursued.

  17. PaulLemmen
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

    Yes it is. Redemption and a complete turning away from crime means advocating honesty and truthfulness in all things.

  18. Dianna Deeley
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 12:21 pm

     You could not be Anamika on your worst day; you have good character.

    Anamika…well. I worry about her.

  19. Dianna Deeley
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 12:31 pm

    The background is interesting.

    By the way, anyone, what is Larisa Alexandrovna’s surname? Google does not tell me; it’s probably easy enough to find, if you’re not possessed of my inferior google-fu. 

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  21. Evi L. Bloggerlady
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 1:45 pm

    One day I hope Anamika wakes up from her delusions and grows up.  It probably will never happen, but I hope it does.  

  22. Adobe_Walls
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 3:08 pm

    So you’re saying he’s a typical leftist.

  23. Adjoran
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 3:23 pm

    Anamika…well. I worry about her.

    I worry about the poor substances she abuses.

  24. meankitteh
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 3:30 pm

    From Wikipedia : “Alexandrovna was born in the Soviet Union to Jewish parents Aleksander Yurovich, a physicist, and Klavdia Borisovna, an accountant. In the Soviet Union, Jews were discriminated against by the state. She has written of her childhood that even as a child, she was able to understand that her family was treated differently”
    So, she could have used either one.

  25. Adjoran
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 3:43 pm

     She claims to have attended Cleveland State from 1991-95, but there is no one by that name listed in their public alumni list.  She’s probably as phony as Kimberlin and the Anonymous assholes.

  26. Adobe_Walls
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 4:02 pm

    Well played sir!

  27. McGehee
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 5:24 pm

    Like Aleksandrovna, Borisovna and Yurovich are patronymics, not surnames.

  28. meankitteh
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 6:24 pm

    Yes, but I am thinking she could have utilized either one, patronymic or metronomyc as her surname. Just as she is utilizing her father’s first (patronymic) name to write under.

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  30. meankitteh
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 7:01 pm

    and from what I can find she is ” married to Scott Horton of Antiwar.com ”  per her old Twitter account. Wow! What a surprise. I will have to do some more research on this lady.  He is not listed at that site as a columnist. Weird

  31. McGehee
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 7:38 pm

    Well, no. In Russia her own patronymic — based on her father’s name — would be her middle name. It’s legitimately hers and if she wanted to write without using her surname it has the advantage of being easy to remember, and for those who know her personlly easy to recognize.

  32. meankitteh
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 7:54 pm

    I will keep looking then. Has to be some where

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  34. McGehee
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 10:21 pm

    Of course, if she’s married to Scott Horton, maybe her surname is Horton.

  35. meankitteh
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:38 pm

    Well yeah, but what about her maiden name McGhee? I thought that was what is wanted.  I will look some more tomorrow.

  36. Dianna Deeley
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:42 pm

     Russian custom is that one may adopt either one’s mother’s maiden surname or one’s father’s surname. Thus, Svetlana Josefovna could take either her father’s chosen surname – and be  “Stalina” – or use her mother’s maiden surname, as she did, “Aliluieyeva”. It’s slightly unusual – but not unheard-of – to use one’s mother’s surname. But, while I am aware that a very few people have chosen to dispense with surnames altogether, generally speaking, in Russian, the use of the first name and patronymic indicates that one at least knows the individual socially.

    I find it odd that Larisa Alexandrovna does not list a surname anywhere I can find it. Simply put, she could be anyone, if I cannot tie her to a surname and a history.

  37. Dianna Deeley
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:45 pm

     Indeed, I’m sniffing something wrong. But I can’t tell what.

  38. johnl
    June 3rd, 2012 @ 11:47 pm

    The “secret exoneration” text is so bizarre, you have to wonder if she is a sock puppet rather than a meat puppet. 

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