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‘Here We Go Again’

Posted on | November 29, 2011 | 36 Comments

So said Mrs. Herman Cain, when told of the allegations made by Ginger White. That quote was from Herman Cain’s appearance on Wolf Blitzer’s show, in which he made a flat denial:

“I have nothing to hide,” he said. “I did nothing wrong.”
Asked directly by Mr. Blitzer, “Was this an affair?” Mr. Cain responded, “It was not.”

But then Cain’s lawyer, Lin Wood, issued a non-denial:

“This appears to be an accusation of private, alleged consensual conduct between adults — a subject matter which is not a proper subject of inquiry by the media or the public,” he said.

If I were a candidate for office accused of having an affair, and my lawyer issued that kind of statement, I’d need another lawyer to defend me against assault charges for trying to strangle the first lawyer.

But moving on, we find some curious facts about Ginger White:

Ms. White is an unemployed single mother. Before the interview, Fox learned that she had filed a sexual harassment claim against an employer in 2001. That case was settled. The station also found a bankruptcy filing nearly 23 years ago in Kentucky, and several eviction notices in the Atlanta area over the past six years.
The station also reported that Ms. White had a former business partner who once sought a “stalking temporary protective order” against her for “repeated e-mails/texts threatening lawsuit and defamation of character.” The case was dismissed, but it was followed by a libel lawsuit against Ms. White. A judge entered an order against Ms. White because she failed to respond to the lawsuit, Fox reported.

“Several eviction notices”? She is supposedly the mistress of a millionaire businessman, but can’t pay her rent? There would appear to be a contradiction involved here.

Beyond any question of whether Ginger White is telling the truth, however, the Cain campaign made at least three different statements Monday: First, there was Cain’s pre-emptive denial on CNN. Then, there was Lin Wood’s non-denial, which raised eyebrows at AOSHQ. Then there was the press release issued by Cain spokesman J.D. Gordon. So the “message discipline” was problematic.

More problematic, however, was a progressive blogger’s reaction, described by Donald Douglas at American Power:

TBogg’s racist black sexual stereotype slam on Herman Cain as a “jungle boogie black stud” who has “Sexed Up Every Woman In America Including Your Mom.” Racist TBogg spices up the post with some white go-go boot betties looking to go down on a big bad black Cadillac-drivin’ Shaft-style mofo. 

If you accurately describe a New York Times column, Dave Weigel says that’s racist. But lefty bloggers throw this stuff at Herman Cain, and that’s OK, because it’s stereotyping on behalf of progressivism.

UPDATE: ABC News has more details on the accuser:

Ginger White . . . has liens and civil judgments in Kentucky and Georgia dating back to 1994.
Eleven of those liens have been filed since 2009, with nine in 2011. The owners of her apartment complex in Dunwoody, Georgia have sued her for non-payment of rent nearly every month since the beginning of the year.
White, a 46-year-old unemployed single mother who is at least twice divorced, was described by WAGA as an Atlanta-area businesswoman. . . . According to WAGA, she filed a sex harassment claim against an employer ten years ago, and the case was settled. . . .
In January, there is a scheduled court date in an unrelated civil suit filed against her by a former business partner, Kimberly Vay, who alleges that White stalked and harassed her and had sought a protective order. A judge has entered a default judgment in Vay’s favor.

She’s nine months behind on her rent?

 


Category: Election 2012, Herman Cain

Comments

36 Responses to “‘Here We Go Again’”

  1. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 10:43 am

    I’m not a Christian, so I honestly have no idea how to answer this: if Cain, an ordained minister, had a pastoral relationship with this woman, and not a sexual/romantic relationship, isn’t this pretty much how he’d have to answer if asked about the details of that relationship?

    J.

  2. DaveO
    November 29th, 2011 @ 10:46 am

    This is almost as funny as seeing an ad to re-elect Alan Grayson on your page.

  3. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 10:49 am

    My sister is a Methodist minister, and that’s how she would have to answer. There’s a reason there’s a clerical privilege defined in laws on testimony, similar to doctor and attorney.

  4. Ladd Ehlinger Jr.
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:05 am

    All of which begs the question… http://filmladd.com/?WhenBookToursGoBad

  5. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:11 am

    Let it go. Cain didn’t do anything to you…blame your contact, sure.

    On another note, if the story is true and that lady rants money…she us going about it wrong. I’m sure Cain would have paid he off….if true.

  6. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:21 am

    @FilmLadd Heard a lot of complaints like that. “Mongo just pawn in game of life.”

  7. Joe
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:24 am

    Ladd, I am still willing to give Cain the benefit of doubt…but I have doubts.  And even if this is the most insidious evil hit job ever, Herman Cain’s candiacy is terminally damaged.  Not over the hit job (assuming it is a hit job)–oh it damaged him but if false he could survive that–but over a terrible campaign. 

    I want to defend Herman.  But it is getting increasingly harder to do so.  While I like Herman Cain and support his message, we have to win the White House in 2012.  Herman can’t win it if this continues. 

  8. steve benton
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:44 am

    Maybe Herman can get an adviser to handle all his booty calls. The same guy that’s going to tell him what to think on foreign policy can also do the actual harassment. I hope this doesn’t endanger receiving our lil pony through Herman.

  9. DarthLevin
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:48 am

    My new concern about Cain is his ability to choose qualified advisors. I mean, your own lawyer puts out a non-denial denial like that?

  10. Christy Waters
    November 29th, 2011 @ 11:52 am

    Found this: Cain “Reassessing” Candidacy

    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284321/breaking-cain-reassessing-candidacy-robert-costa

  11. Zilla of the Resistance
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:04 pm

    BREAKING: via FoxNews – ‘Cain campaign conducting an “assessment” of campaign’
    Will the realize too late that they should have embraced the Conservative media that wanted to help them? Will he quit? WHAT?

    They should have fucking hired some new media savvy people, they should have listened to Stacy! Hell, they could have had Ladd on their team too! But NOOOO, they had to jerk around people who could have HELPED THEM.

    I suspect the Cain camp0aign has been run by lib saboteurs all along. The way the campaign undermines itself is worse than anything those bitches or the lefty media has done.

  12. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:09 pm

    If Cain’s relationship with her was “pastoral” that would have been a good thing to lead with.

  13. dad29
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:17 pm

    The campaign was run by Mark Block.  We have experience with him in Wisconsin.  He’s in WAAAAYYYYYY over his head; he thought he could run the campaign as a Peter Fonda/Born to be Wild re-write.

    Wrong.

  14. Christy Waters
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:18 pm

    This link updated with comments from Herman Cain.
    http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/284321/breaking-cain-reassessing-candidacy-robert-costa

  15. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:20 pm

    Why does his lawyer need to deny it again, except to mollify fools like Leon at RedState?  You would think that one denial is enough, especially when it was done preemptively.

  16. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:40 pm

    Linked, with commentary on one aspect.

  17. Finrod Felagund
    November 29th, 2011 @ 12:48 pm

    Bringing it up once or twice is one thing.  Bringing it up a fourth or fifth time is whining.
     

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  19. ThePaganTemple
    November 29th, 2011 @ 1:44 pm

    Oh, so their relationship was pastoral? What does that mean, that they did it in a corn field?

  20. Dicentra spectabilis
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:38 pm

    A commenter at protein wisdom confirms the diagnosis: the woman’s a real piece of work: http://t.co/qZMa1iwt

    “She looks like the gal I interviewed and I remember her name was Ginger.
    I don’t remember her last name. It would have been in 04-05. She was
    dippy. Didn’t get the job and kept hounding me to find her something
    else. I finally had the admin screen my calls and didn’t return her
    messages. I hate having my calls screened at work. She finally quit
    calling. IIRC her resume was very spotty and she was kinda vague about
    her past history. Was very incensed that she wasn’t chosen.”

  21. Adjoran
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:49 pm

    So, Cain defenders:  how about the dozens of phone calls and text messages to Cain’s private cell number?  Was she ordering pizza?

    Reality is not what you want to believe.

  22. Zilla of the Resistance
    November 29th, 2011 @ 2:58 pm

    *giggle*

  23. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 3:11 pm

    How many FROM Cain?

  24. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:00 pm

    *Good times?*

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  26. Anonymous
    November 29th, 2011 @ 4:47 pm

    “If I were a candidate for office accused of having an affair, and my
    lawyer issued that kind of statement, I’d need another lawyer to defend
    me against assault charges for trying to strangle the first lawyer.”

    Funniest thing I’ve read in a week.

    Thank you.

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