The Other McCain

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I’d Vote For A Frickin’ Wiccan

Posted on | August 20, 2010 | 47 Comments

by Smitty

. . .if that candidate took the Oath of Office in a serious way.

Note to conservatives fretting un-knowable aspects of the Presidential character (is he Moslem?): nice gills.

This argument joins Birtherism in the list of shiny, tangential arguments that can be used to manage the tempo of the news cycle.

As far as what really matters, I’ll offer, in the concrete category, the national debt, and, in the abstract category, the death of Federalism that has led to a Ruling Class and, yes, the debt.

Who gives a flying French fornication if we elected our first Moslem President concurrent with our first black President? That Ruling Class, and the dirty debt diaper we now enjoy, was born and baptized under the tenure of Woodrow Wilson. Yay, Chrisitianity: if you haven’t got a Caesar unto whom to render, sodomize your secular Constitution and see what grows within a century. We’ve gone from

E Pluribus Unum

to the current

Eh? Pluribus? UNUM!

thanks to the kneecapping of the several States via Amendments 16 & 17 and the Federal Reserve Act, AKA the Cosmic Credit Card.

Conservatives, Tea Party celebrants, and the American wing of the Republican Party need to be talking about the Post-Progressive Era. The era when

  • social policies are, appropriately, funded and implemented at the State level,
  • the Federal government does its Constitutional interstate and internation thing, and
  • anyone promoting non-wartime Federal deficit spending is, appropriately, laughed out of office.

The Post-Progressive transition promises to suck. Sorry, no golden hover ponies. But the country has faced stiffer existential challenges with aplomb.

Thus, it really doesn’t matter if the Progressive Era was bookended by a Southern Death Cult-ist and a Hare Krishna; all that really matters is that it end.

Update: having said all that, this is funny.

Category: Progressivism

Comments

47 Responses to “I’d Vote For A Frickin’ Wiccan”

  1. Obi's Sister
    August 20th, 2010 @ 10:41 pm

    You’re a poet and don’t know it…

  2. Obi's Sister
    August 20th, 2010 @ 6:41 pm

    You’re a poet and don’t know it…

  3. KillTruck
    August 20th, 2010 @ 10:42 pm

    Yup.

  4. KillTruck
    August 20th, 2010 @ 6:42 pm

    Yup.

  5. Steven
    August 20th, 2010 @ 10:48 pm

    There’s more to the question of Obama’s religion than a matter of personal choice, or even honesty. Most Muslims consider him to be a fellow believer because he was born to a Muslim father. That, by definition, makes him a Muslim. If he has left the faith, then he calls down a death sentence upon himself, a sentence that a majority of even moderate Muslims consider justified. This was a consideration when he visited an Islamic country and I was working at our embassy there. To what extent could we trust the security forces of that nation to be willing to protect a man they might consider an apostate?

  6. Steven
    August 20th, 2010 @ 6:48 pm

    There’s more to the question of Obama’s religion than a matter of personal choice, or even honesty. Most Muslims consider him to be a fellow believer because he was born to a Muslim father. That, by definition, makes him a Muslim. If he has left the faith, then he calls down a death sentence upon himself, a sentence that a majority of even moderate Muslims consider justified. This was a consideration when he visited an Islamic country and I was working at our embassy there. To what extent could we trust the security forces of that nation to be willing to protect a man they might consider an apostate?

  7. Steven
    August 20th, 2010 @ 10:54 pm

    And speaking of E Pluribus Unum (Which also happens to be the motto of Portugal’s most popular soccer team, strangely enough.) Shortly after the inauguration, the State Department hosted an event at the nation I mentioned above, at which large banners proclaimed, “Out of Many, We Are One” with the president’s name below, as if he had coined the phrase. Just for fun I pointed the posters out to several guests, none of whom seemed to find anything strange about them. I wonder if they’d said “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” with the president’s name below whether anyone would think it odd.

  8. Steven
    August 20th, 2010 @ 6:54 pm

    And speaking of E Pluribus Unum (Which also happens to be the motto of Portugal’s most popular soccer team, strangely enough.) Shortly after the inauguration, the State Department hosted an event at the nation I mentioned above, at which large banners proclaimed, “Out of Many, We Are One” with the president’s name below, as if he had coined the phrase. Just for fun I pointed the posters out to several guests, none of whom seemed to find anything strange about them. I wonder if they’d said “From each according to his ability, to each according to his need” with the president’s name below whether anyone would think it odd.

  9. wormme
    August 20th, 2010 @ 10:55 pm

    They’re really stressing Obama’s Christianity, huh? It’s easy to put that to the test. Ask, “since the Koran leads people away from Christ, Mr. President, would you say that Mohammed was a false prophet?”

    In all fairness, a lot of Christians would flince away from that one. And Barack will be dodging honest questions more than ever, from now on.

  10. wormme
    August 20th, 2010 @ 6:55 pm

    They’re really stressing Obama’s Christianity, huh? It’s easy to put that to the test. Ask, “since the Koran leads people away from Christ, Mr. President, would you say that Mohammed was a false prophet?”

    In all fairness, a lot of Christians would flince away from that one. And Barack will be dodging honest questions more than ever, from now on.

  11. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:08 pm

    @wormme,
    What, specificially, is the political point of testing the faith of any elected official?

  12. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:08 pm

    @wormme,
    What, specificially, is the political point of testing the faith of any elected official?

  13. Live Free Or Die
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:20 pm

    “The Post-Progressive transition promises to suck.”—Smitty, 8-20-2010, (Arthur Koestler would be proud.)

    Will there be a bumber sticker?: Mean transitions suck, Nice transitions swallow.

  14. Live Free Or Die
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:20 pm

    “The Post-Progressive transition promises to suck.”—Smitty, 8-20-2010, (Arthur Koestler would be proud.)

    Will there be a bumber sticker?: Mean transitions suck, Nice transitions swallow.

  15. wormme
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:31 pm

    @smitty

    Er…sorry. You’re right. Good point!

    I like coming up with “silver bullet” logical arguments. One-shot-one-kill. Whether the shot should be taken doesn’t always occur to me.

    I guess that makes me…a logic troll? No wonder human society has cast me out and I dwell under a bridge.

    Sob.

  16. wormme
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:31 pm

    @smitty

    Er…sorry. You’re right. Good point!

    I like coming up with “silver bullet” logical arguments. One-shot-one-kill. Whether the shot should be taken doesn’t always occur to me.

    I guess that makes me…a logic troll? No wonder human society has cast me out and I dwell under a bridge.

    Sob.

  17. just a conservative girl
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:32 pm

    Smitty:
    I am with you, I am sick to death of all this Muslim talk. Personally, this is my belief, he worships at the alter of big government. That is all I really need to know.

    As far as I am concerned he is Godless in his soul, what he calls himself is irrelevant.

  18. just a conservative girl
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:32 pm

    Smitty:
    I am with you, I am sick to death of all this Muslim talk. Personally, this is my belief, he worships at the alter of big government. That is all I really need to know.

    As far as I am concerned he is Godless in his soul, what he calls himself is irrelevant.

  19. FenelonSpoke
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:43 pm

    I wouldn’t care if he was Muslim if he come out and announced that initially. What is disturbing is that he presented himself as something he was not in many ways and suckers and those that didn’t bother to look or didn’t care fell for it. It makes me wonder who funded him and for what purpose? That does relate to his corruption Marxist politics and his Hugo Chavez wannabeism.

  20. FenelonSpoke
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:43 pm

    I wouldn’t care if he was Muslim if he come out and announced that initially. What is disturbing is that he presented himself as something he was not in many ways and suckers and those that didn’t bother to look or didn’t care fell for it. It makes me wonder who funded him and for what purpose? That does relate to his corruption Marxist politics and his Hugo Chavez wannabeism.

  21. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:45 pm

    @Fenelon,
    Distraction, distraction, distraction.

  22. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 7:45 pm

    @Fenelon,
    Distraction, distraction, distraction.

  23. FenelonSpoke
    August 21st, 2010 @ 12:02 am

    Perhaps, but it works for me. I do my best to witness-in a political, not a religious sense to Independents and Democrats. I am a registered Dem. One of the things that seems to stick with them is his record of lies and cheating in the caucuses. It may be a distraction but if it gets them not to support Democrats in November it’s worth it. On the other hand, emphasis on his religion could be a distraction from the way he’s f’ing up the country.

  24. FenelonSpoke
    August 20th, 2010 @ 8:02 pm

    Perhaps, but it works for me. I do my best to witness-in a political, not a religious sense to Independents and Democrats. I am a registered Dem. One of the things that seems to stick with them is his record of lies and cheating in the caucuses. It may be a distraction but if it gets them not to support Democrats in November it’s worth it. On the other hand, emphasis on his religion could be a distraction from the way he’s f’ing up the country.

  25. smitty
    August 21st, 2010 @ 12:08 am

    @Fenlon,
    You’re missing my broader point that he’s the other bookend of a century of country-effer-uppers.
    To focus on The One is to over-credit him.

  26. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 8:08 pm

    @Fenlon,
    You’re missing my broader point that he’s the other bookend of a century of country-effer-uppers.
    To focus on The One is to over-credit him.

  27. Diogenes
    August 21st, 2010 @ 12:32 am

    Muslim?? Christian?? Nonsense! He worships only himself and surrounds himself with only true believers. His church follows him around everywhere he goes. Like the fellow that asked if I thought he was “Kenyan”. I replied, did you say “Keynesian”?

  28. Diogenes
    August 20th, 2010 @ 8:32 pm

    Muslim?? Christian?? Nonsense! He worships only himself and surrounds himself with only true believers. His church follows him around everywhere he goes. Like the fellow that asked if I thought he was “Kenyan”. I replied, did you say “Keynesian”?

  29. wormme
    August 21st, 2010 @ 12:40 am

    @smitty,

    Yeah, focusing on individual progressives is wasted effort. They’re like insects. They swarm. We should aim for the Marxist nest; their tattered economic principles and totalitarian political aims.

    Take taxation without representation. How did we ever arrive at situation where Americans under age 18, who aren’t permitted to vote, be required to pay taxes? Hasn’t that ever been challenged in court?

  30. wormme
    August 20th, 2010 @ 8:40 pm

    @smitty,

    Yeah, focusing on individual progressives is wasted effort. They’re like insects. They swarm. We should aim for the Marxist nest; their tattered economic principles and totalitarian political aims.

    Take taxation without representation. How did we ever arrive at situation where Americans under age 18, who aren’t permitted to vote, be required to pay taxes? Hasn’t that ever been challenged in court?

  31. Dandapani
    August 21st, 2010 @ 1:32 am

    I’m Hindu and it doesn’t offend me to choose a Christian or a Muslim President. What offends me is when the rest of the nation puts a Marxist in office like this last time. Doesn’t matter a rat’s patoot what his religion religion is, but his philosophical religion is much too Socialist and that, my friends, is what offends me.

  32. Dandapani
    August 20th, 2010 @ 9:32 pm

    I’m Hindu and it doesn’t offend me to choose a Christian or a Muslim President. What offends me is when the rest of the nation puts a Marxist in office like this last time. Doesn’t matter a rat’s patoot what his religion religion is, but his philosophical religion is much too Socialist and that, my friends, is what offends me.

  33. Prudence
    August 21st, 2010 @ 1:38 am

    @smitty…
    I’ll take Southern Culture on the Skids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP5rwVNJko) over Southern Death Cult.

  34. Prudence
    August 20th, 2010 @ 9:38 pm

    @smitty…
    I’ll take Southern Culture on the Skids (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KUP5rwVNJko) over Southern Death Cult.

  35. smitty
    August 21st, 2010 @ 1:41 am

    @Prudence,
    Great cut, but I wanted the word ‘Cult’ in the band name, to allude to the religious thread.

  36. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 9:41 pm

    @Prudence,
    Great cut, but I wanted the word ‘Cult’ in the band name, to allude to the religious thread.

  37. young4eyes
    August 21st, 2010 @ 3:07 am

    Smitty, you’re dealing with a bunch of mental midgets who believe what they want to believe. You can’t talk sense into these morons. But I laud you for trying…

  38. young4eyes
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:07 pm

    Smitty, you’re dealing with a bunch of mental midgets who believe what they want to believe. You can’t talk sense into these morons. But I laud you for trying…

  39. smitty
    August 21st, 2010 @ 3:20 am

    @Y4E,
    The key to education is repetition. The key to education is repetition. . .

  40. smitty
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:20 pm

    @Y4E,
    The key to education is repetition. The key to education is repetition. . .

  41. two kgs of pigsnout
    August 21st, 2010 @ 3:41 am

    The key to education is repetition. The key to education is repetition. . .

    The key to curing the brainwash is reverse brainwash. You wash, i wash and after a point the subject goes nuts.

  42. two kgs of pigsnout
    August 20th, 2010 @ 11:41 pm

    The key to education is repetition. The key to education is repetition. . .

    The key to curing the brainwash is reverse brainwash. You wash, i wash and after a point the subject goes nuts.

  43. Good Ole Boy
    August 21st, 2010 @ 7:56 am

    Islam is not merely a religion, It is also a system of laws(sharia)http://www.cfr.org/publication/8034/islam.html and calls for it’s spread at the point of a spear to be run by a caliphate http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0510/p01s04-wome.html Convert or die. There is an out, dhimmitude where you have skills that benefit them and are taxed. It is second class citizenship at best. It does make a difference what his religion is, when it is Islam. Read the Koran. Islam is evil, peaceful Muslims usually don’t understand the Koran.

  44. Good Ole Boy
    August 21st, 2010 @ 3:56 am

    Islam is not merely a religion, It is also a system of laws(sharia)http://www.cfr.org/publication/8034/islam.html and calls for it’s spread at the point of a spear to be run by a caliphate http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/0510/p01s04-wome.html Convert or die. There is an out, dhimmitude where you have skills that benefit them and are taxed. It is second class citizenship at best. It does make a difference what his religion is, when it is Islam. Read the Koran. Islam is evil, peaceful Muslims usually don’t understand the Koran.

  45. Warren G. Harding
    August 21st, 2010 @ 2:41 pm

    “our first black President”

    What am I, chopped liver?

  46. Warren G. Harding
    August 21st, 2010 @ 10:41 am

    “our first black President”

    What am I, chopped liver?

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